Liu Wanyong by December 12 at 7 pm, Shaw House, a mock court in Peking University, Beijing University internal and external experts to . This article is one of the participating journalists to write my invitation. Peking University students with a few posts there.
Ji lost art events, have been reported for some time. As reported in the press, I have also received many phone calls have to be related personnel, there are reports questioning the true and false. the debate is a good thing, than the direct sealing progress. students love to love school teacher was right, but the teacher should tell the truth, especially not creative to tell lies.
Ji Peking University seminar running account
12 12 evening 7:00, Shaw House, a layer of mock Peking University, the Peking University campus outside experts to Pirates of the event Event also invited a dozen media, including CCTV, CCTV, South Wind, the Beijing Morning Post, Beijing News and so on. Ji first reported news of events, one had not been invited.
released ahead of the meeting Topics that PKU published However, freedom of the media are not without constraints freedom of the press code of ethics the media acts to prevent the evolution of media as media violence a public institution. But China has always been to discipline the media. At present, discipline, and gradually decreased in some areas, but at the same time, news Ethics did not form, the absence of this constraint led to the media as a tool for some people pursue self-interest.
Peking University Center for the public participation in and support materials for the meeting issued a discussion, a collection of related media reports.
claimed Gao Heng agents also attended the meeting and bring Heng reading information will crusade.
not think that Beijing University philosophy department head suddenly appeared PKILOSOPHY, said Public Security Department has been involved in the investigation unhistorical, Jilao calligraphy is not lost, send men fake paintings to auction in May this year, has died, and now next check is difficult, and criticized the media hype to follow suit.
more unexpected is the agent of Zhang Heng informants almost a fight to the root of this PKILOSOPHY, Peking University students were boos, but it is almost hit by Beijing University students.
the beginning of the expert discussions, or very retreat, but basically reflect on media violence.
Philosophy Department of Beijing University, said Professor Han Shuifa three aspects: the time to enjoy the freedom of speech may infringe the rights of others; today the lack of mainstream media, the lack of accountability are; modern society in transition, lack of responsible reporting, facing re-order.
He Weifang, was not present, a written statement that the network posed by the rise of infringement is trouble is derogatory, meaning a lack of restraint in the media. said, the Cultural Revolution has shown the consequences of freedom of speech too. (strong teacher cited a number of famous celebrities, foreign scholars say so, if I Caishuxueqian to write down so a few)
Professor of Law, Beijing University of Aeronautics yellow flowers from a legal perspective the media interpretation of the possibility of infringement at trial, pointed out that according to her research on the hundreds of cases, China has no uniform standard for this.
Beijing University philosophy teacher Wang Bo, the main point is four words, fear, wisdom, referees, interests, the main point is freedom of speech is behind the manipulation of interest.
South Media News Group Legal Director Zhang Zhibing refuted, Chinese media say in the proceedings against the high rate of compensation rate is high, a lot of control.
Professor Department of Fine Arts, Peking University, said Yu Hong, Ji is still dynamic in this thing, not a result of discussion on this matter Some children early, but the discussion of public reason and some late.
to free the discussion stage, the first floor of the contact the North is difficult children? Why his colleagues interviewed in the incident to Energize when North spokesman, press spokesman to ask: you did not receive publicity requirements? Why should report? He also noted that the meeting issued materials, which included reports of suspects have been filtered, a considerable part of the questioning, Who does not point to criticize who. She cited event, encountered difficulties, Beijing University of talking, or even justify, has been unable to give a persuasive response, and why? Why is not the response of Academic Zhang Heng and pop star, the response to some very reasonable The.
this time, the scene in an uproar. is a media point of view: the interview in the Energize difficult event, you can actually still discussing the North to the media today over the freedom of speech, this is not convincing. < br> After the two speeches, have won a round of applause from the scene.
Suddenly, a few teachers arrived at the venue of Beijing University, students are surrounded in the statement.
Energize the students, Beijing University of Foreign Languages College Professor Duan Qing said that she usually unwilling to face the media, and to the audience not to take photographs. She first Yu-Jie Li and Rui care of Jilao thanked. her own feelings, and now look even better than previous Yu-Jie Li Ji Lao it easier to take care of, Yu-Jie Li on Jilao loyal, afraid that people will bring germs into the ward. She said he last saw Jilao June this year. She said that no university will set up an investigation group for scholars, this thing should be judicial authority to manage, this is not the North should do the thing. (Some people ask: do we wonder why the North themselves of themselves?)
female teachers could not go on too excited, Beijing University Philosophy Department on the matter, said PKILOSOPHY North Forest donations, offers a collection of lists, this university has conducted an inventory of the inventory and found that painting is not lost. Heng hand calligraphy is false, the directory does not, without find Zhang Heng check.
clear of all, the value of a good several hundred million, donated by Peking University found these pictures and not lost. Heng hand painting sources are false, but be sure to come up with Zhang Heng really confronted with his painting, this is nonsense, and because the world simply do not have as a fake picture, what means to check against? Celebrity donations given to Ji's painting does not have possession of the Ji family, PKILOSOPHY said Ji's paintings are donated, no private collection.
PKILOSOPHY said, the Public Security Department in the investigation unhistorical and find pictures and sources to provide pictures and auction in May this year a man died was liver cancer, making the obstacles to further trace. He said that the man who is not academic, nor is art people, in the end what capacity he is did not say.
As Jilao and son 13 years can not meet, PKILOSOPHY said that this was a private matter home season, North inconvenient to say it, afraid of hurting Jilao.
he said, many teachers have to know the truth of Beijing University said that some people ranging from judicial findings, released to the media, but also other providers of dead pictures and then released, has an ulterior motive.
in PKILOSOPHY spoke, Zhang Heng agents is too high to speak to counsel bias PKILOSOPHY Peking University, trying to stop speaking PKILOSOPHY, pulled PKILOSOPHY call Gao out, and some students even to hands.
PKILOSOPHY the support of the students, the sit down and speak, the scene applause.
PKILOSOPHY said that the media is not a court, the absence of any right to trial, this thing is not impossible said the North have reached a point where also mentioned how about this?
then some students may be entrusted by the person in charge of the meeting, to send PKILOSOPHY home, but some reporters have gathered around him and asked.
to draw a person, this person sent to auction houses, spend their own cheap shot down, and beat the white bars, did not pay cash, and then another report said Jilao his paintings was stolen, what motive? ; PKILOSOPHY said later.
PKILOSOPHY and the Foreign Language Institute is said to clear the segment are lin incident investigation team, but their own and conference organizers did not respond.
PKILOSOPHY said, just a few Ji Doctoral students are back at the venue, Ji thing they know, but they never speak, but also to maintain Jilao.
not so close, Ph.D. is the real students. Qian Wenzhong Ji thing on all clear that he will understand why now it's going to do? This is a big problem ah. > High-lawyers also tried to explain with the media, he said: Do not listen to one side of the story, listen to Zhang Heng said. but shouted safeguard the rights of others to speak.
lawyers out of the hall in the high post, there are still many students surrounded him to protest his actions. They accounted for high strength to apologize PKILOSOPHY. One girl said: you a lawyer? You Some lawyers card? you speak the truth even people do not understand, or lawyers, ridiculous.
floor in front of Shaw, Gao went before PKILOSOPHY, the two shook hands. PKILOSOPHY cites Voltaire's words, paintings, there is no such thing r; teacher said that: l this is false rhh later the man left. We legend that man is the Zhang Heng.
Peking University Weiming post
Sender: fhirrine ( fjord), the letter area: Law
Title: Die Act I smell
letter station: North Unnamed site (December 13, 2008 01:07:40 Saturday), the station letters
Moot Court at the university tonight, Mr. quarter of paintings on the case of freedom of the media and the public reason of the life, school life in a wonderful case
.
with the participation of law schools Xi-zinc, Shen Kui, Tang Feng, strong world power, Zhang equality teacher, Wang Bo Philosophy Department, Korea Water Act
teacher, art teacher and Beihang University School of Law, the major media, journalists and legal persons, there is no place more than a few
get to the students and the community is unknown persons. He Weifang, a teacher absent for some reason (I do not want to Hu added you to speculate in it.) occurred most dramatically after
the parties Zhang Heng's lawyer, veteran Department of Philosophy, Mr. Ji and Mr. Zhao Dunkang friends Disciples
quarter section teacher. The purpose of the meeting , is roughly equal participation of all parties were on the scene in which freedom of expression and Crafts
discussion of the relationship between individual freedom.
law makers to speak more to how the conditions in the media to determine their own freedom of speech limits, through the media to maintain
public reason itself. public reason is indeed a social problem in this class the most fundamental values, the scholars are wary of the media does not
bound by the danger of public reason, the proposed response to the basic similar, both through the media, according to certain criteria to self-discipline,
but also by civil society groups and universities and other ideological deviation from the independent oversight to prevent the media, interest groups, public reason or is
manipulation. Many scholars will learn the fundamental management issues due to the constitutional rights of freedom of expression and personal conflicts, Northern teacher also made a detailed practice notes
this, I personally think this may be biased. Do not say to the current constitution to discuss the theoretical significance of what has
, the two actually kind of conflict between the right to have such a serious, decidedly so in an academic division and can not make judgments
, in reality, it is only through the extremely complicated operation means, a matter of the present invention to adapt to endless cases rules, after the summary of what
many conflicting laws, so do not remind us of the situation, we may mention the wrong question
it? scholars now accept the American system of public law, the Court of the United States for its similar problems arising in the Constitution is also true solution
decision, so they will not jump out of the nest acetabular given issue. If a problem is confused or can not solve such a complex
, so probably we should not ask questions, This is the extended Occam's razor. Specifically, whether we, in theory, freedom of speech and personal rights of
division is wrong? our constitutional structure as well as the U.S. system is not wrong? modern
society upon which to build the right model is not wrong? I can not draw a conclusion, but modern society and the main phase stripping people of their rights and obligations
model is certainly not the only option.
This is a common misunderstanding linked the mouth of a teacher today and I heard this I found it surprising insights,
that people in the Middle Ages to protect their basic rights is not constitutional, they were oppressed by the heavy religious right, life the dark era of the black
. I study of medieval rough enough to make me understand that this statement is nothing but
the early Middle Ages, people do not need the Constitution to protect their basic rights, or that they do not like the concept of
, and no peeling in the person's basic rights; in contrast, is subject to the Church as a whole , Lord, honor the traditional protection
and, of course, they also have corresponding obligations. the Middle Ages may have a stake, there is barbaric we think the trial
contracting procedures, but if we put them in the fact that the whole community to look at, their value will be very different meaning.
Malinowski of the South Pacific islands and Hoebel study of Indians already illustrates this point.
turn to the media to speak, I suddenly alerted to the long-term stay in college there, actually made me forget the outside world also
no knowledge of such person. a CCTV reporter standing up to excitedly asked the audience: How many people think that I
their inaccuracy it? please raise your hands? once, leaving you feel funny. false or not, as had just made a self-regulatory standards scholars
, I did not agree, because I think this case is whether or not there is no real problem, but vigorously engaged in the media reports
Road is too boring; media are not contrary to the true and objective information criteria, but do not be too boring contrary to a child
all know that truth. The matter has been handed over to judicial treatment of this, only because Zhang Heng's constantly yelling, the media who will listen with a towering words
news reports at great length. For those who dare say no one forced some pressure, no one dares to deal with things, the media may come out of public
Scream the embodiment of righteousness; but could have been no need to get through the expansion of the public eye deal with the incident, the body just by thinking
media entertainment speculation. Ask yourself, how many people forget the back of the head immediately after reading, or relish in the word
painting value, family Confidential, or to satisfy the curiosity of the embarrassing situation elite masters? this kind of thing simply not worthwhile to the academic discussion
increase the height of public reason, it is just another social entertainment events only. but we CCTV lovely
were simply recorded blood and tears at the meeting complained how the media was unfair treatment, and how great the pressure, even the scholars do not mention the issue of press freedom in China are
poke out, causing a beep. I seen, not that the students admired her br> Health is the key link that is on her it? please raise your hands? br> performance, Moreover, no matter what she asked, where would anyone raise it? collective vote of the so-called cultural revolution, but a public trial would big
reproduction only, and then extend down toward a democratic system will in fact be a fundamental weakness, I unknown said here. The press has
not understand, still complained endlessly. the world has no knowledge that the person is not surprising, but is unwilling or without knowledge of the people living
shall live with no knowledge of the position, since that the community voice, even still hold the opinion that the direction of the community, to really shudder to think of
. were properly divided, the struggle to Yin, is really the bane of this society. We can no longer
like the United States by not Since only the development of competition and go out.
Zhao led to the emergence of dramatic climax tonight, scholars calm, express their opinions to this discussion is basically
finished. from the following things we can see this society there are three half-human, at least: academics, journalists represented by slightly
also know how to respect the culture of discipline and order on behalf of Zhang Heng's lawyer-free cultures, semi-class students, the following I will < br> detailed. Mr. Zhao and Duan teachers had talked about how little, just as a near friend of Mr. quarter a state table, I hope things
early settlement of the class. Shuzhi mentioned I do not know what incredible Zhao things, the lawyer suddenly rushed out and pointed to Mr. Zhao
cursed his nonsense, and then even further asked him
is really incredible, and all the pan fried Peking University students, have stood accused of lack of respect for the lawyers not only the dignity of the teaching profession, and even the basic freedom of speech
not to others, freedom of expression also compete for customers rights. the moment the whole event has evolved into a martial artist
situation, but fortunately Mr. Zhao advanced age or the estimated deep conservation with such people do not want to fight, next to Professor Wang also urged the next time
lawyers and students. followed by a Zhao attendance to a teacher, the students would applaud a crashed, then I smell a bit sour
to the atmosphere. Mr. Zhao Zhong Qing also speak later in the grounds, but I guess most students do not care about the What,
and concerned about his speech itself as a complete victory on the legal trouble, so to the applause, Mr. general remarks
academic analysis than to those who would like to warmly thorough teacher, one thing to show off the flavor. no I expected, after the meeting, lawyers
was immediately surrounded by angry students. enraged lawyers insisted the students to apologize, do not apologize for their posture and hold great meaning people
.
to this truth to power and even violence will manifest themselves, rather than scholars thought that gentle
front pay, not to mention, the students, although the moral upper hand, not necessarily how much the truth. more just watch the number of students,
one of the boys comment on very specific: No, this is unyielding in which
fear of violence carries the truth should be the attitude remains. The result is the teacher's persuasion, the angry students surrounded
has been counsel to the House door, finally I admire the ability of their people skills to persuade teachers Xi-zinc
group of people loose. At this point, have half an hour from the end of the session.
students in this not generated by the mob on the tendency of civilization and education have planted the
the seeds of ethical and independent thinking, and their future is uncertain. the most terrible, of course, should have been gracefully than sitting in
round table in a civilized way of thinking decision-making intelligence that they will be used in the performance of violence and destruction for the acts of the mob. back
care history, revolutionary way of using the most brutal torture of others, often these semi-intellectual; conducted in the country but more wide leather soft
life.
this incident should provoke us to reflect again on the subject tonight: when a person's freedom of speech violated the legitimate rights of others when
interest is not everyone has the right to use free speech to attack him? In legal terms, only those who have violated the rights of
claim redress; but in the moral, ethical behavior is a violation of the community will be more than negative evaluation of the road
Germany. it is easy to balance. Of course, each student has ruled on the attorney conduct rules and ethical right to condemn
, although the damage is not a lawyer of their rights; However, when such a people come together to condemn the
lawyers, even though there is no violence and uneven demands for an apology, lawyers are very difficult to bear. Moreover, in reality, the public can not just stop at condemning
individual oral position, but rather tend to bring together into a unified great power, who
of moral weakness in the economy, life, personal style of all aspects of the dictatorship of the mob. is called a mob, because this kind of thing totally
is spontaneous at the bottom, not accordance with the law, according to pool together some kind of mental or emotional unconscious destructive power, we see him in the
students, scholars still have restrained style mob. If we say that this is a person against the inevitable costs of road
Germany, then in the network era, this problem can not be ignored. In the past a person is to
face from his and neighboring regions occupations of condemnation, but now he has to face the media can reach everyone. child cat incident,
human search, the topic has highlighted the moral shortcomings of individuals when faced with strong public discourse is too weak . The law seems
division students will be facing a siege of more than the test tonight. Our society is also more sliding into mob rule
society? a society all men are the secret police? one on the fear, the fear of mean high society?
Sender: baojiliuchen (PHIN ~ LONG LIVE!), faith Region: Triangle
Title: 12.12 model law in the courts of students witnessed (with photos)
Write station: North Unnamed site (December 13, 2008 01:06:16 Saturday), the station letters
12 12 evening, Beijing University Law School Public Interest Law and Research Center of Public Participation in the old Law Building Moot Court organized a round
Table discussion on the theme Block, the Conference began, the model law has been pushed to near saturation. the scene of the professors of Beijing University Law School Professor He Weifang
, strong world power, Professor, Peking University Department of Philosophy and professor of art and the well-known, including CCTV, the
National Youth Report, including dozens of well-known media journalist, the host for the Beijing University Law School Professor Wang Xixin and Professor Shen Kui.
be that I did not expect to hear the discussion that we actually become Energize storm witness a new upsurge.
speech session, you are full of speeches, Professor strong academic atmosphere. The professors of academic and rational speech exciting
won the consensus of the presence of students, but the presence of dozens of news media outlets have raised objections to this. But Peoples is of
did not show up until the Professor He Weifang, according to the host explained, Professor He in Shanghai on business. But Professor He is still the way by electronic messages
completed his speech.
Then, Zhang Heng's agents Beijing Dacheng Law Firm lawyers strong high share a brief speech, he held the book by Zhang Heng
said: We discussed the case before the matter has not yet ruled,
must take into account the problem of Zhang Heng's personal reputation. Although a little surprised that we did not much interest, not surprisingly
amazing scene to be staged later .
for the free discussion in the next sessions. Peking University Law School Professor strong point of view function bear the brunt of the world's been into all Chinese Commercial News reporter De Fandui
. The reporter is directed at Professor strong said, problem. This view was then stirred our strong opposition, we believe that the reporter did not sufficiently strong reasons
Professor solution ideas, elaborated only heard of the Professor Qiang unwarranted charges. do
fact, Professor strong view is that justice and the social construction of the University as a space of public reason in today's society
duties will not perform well, judicial and public universities Reason has been instigated by the media more and more deviation from the normal track
.
strong point of view is essentially the teacher's current lack of justice and rational reflection of university education is simply not for the media.
We believe that , our legal and judicial and university academics on a profound lack of rational reflection, and the media people do?
reflect on what they do? They just complain about their lack of them in the clamor that the so-called freedom of speech, but completely
care not the value and integrity of the media itself lies entirely rational contempt for society and its supervision and regulation. The views of journalists to counter
of teachers at the university students on the strong point of view has been completely cheers bankruptcy, was completely submerged.
Then, CCTV, a female reporter despite the seemingly weak volume is extremely small, but the view of Professor of Peking University for the presence of a sharp critique
. She repeatedly stated China has been extremely restricted freedom of speech, the media can not be true and objective and fair reporting
Road. She actually openly called for the matter:
Then, she added: professors and students of the same object. As Professor Wang Xixin the
said: all the media coverage of their events are not all the same, simply can not vote on the same side.
school with their warm applause and cheers once again proved the absurdity of the presence of some of the media.
At this time, two mysterious figures into the stadium audience have to stand, and reporters, Changqiangduanbao have aligned them. a
bits is claiming to be disciples Jilao Foreign Language Institute of Beijing University professor, she expressed the presence of our listeners and the media, and photos of North
care of you Jilao Secretary of deep gratitude. The other one is white-haired North Department of Philosophy, Professor Zhao, who are words meaning hair
table the following four points:
First, Jilao respect of Peking University Xu Zhihong has old president signed a written donation agreement, the gift of these paintings North
, its ownership has been vested in Beijing University. it does not exist so-called When the transfer of pictures and a list of these paintings were counted, not
found missing. And if someone reselling paintings, and why people do not reselling paintings of the Ming and Qing reselling priceless paintings, non-
to stealing and selling worthless Modern paintings?
Third, Professor Zhao Lao questioned the practice of Zhang Heng. Zhang person handling the so-called stealing and selling paintings of May this year died because of liver cancer
, has died at this time no check against it. And according to Chang claims He had obtained a few years ago this group of stealing and selling paintings and calligraphy. since, as
this, then why not check against it until the time of death, before the matter nests made public?
Fourth, Professor Zhao Lao certain North false slander the reputation of the media reports that a great deal of indignation. Professor Zhao Lao
anger and said: Now that the press has just CCTV that the media is not the Public Security Bureau (the reporter in the previous claim, the media is not the Public Security Bureau
, do not need to find out the truth), then more than the courts, what qualifications and powers of the judiciary to determine the name names before the public identification of
suspect?
statement in the course of Professor Zhao Lao, Beijing Dacheng Zhang Heng's agent accounted for strong legal firm lawyers speak several times interrupted
. and pull the front Professor Zhao advanced age, the occurrence of violent conflict in the body. He pointed to Professor Zhao arrogant, the audience
and the media, shouting: ; put your gun out!!! br> because of his , and today is also a respected barrister who is a white-haired
in this old professor of rude to Sri Lanka, and talk nonsense, can be described as gentle sweeping, total disregard for the law can be the most valuable reason
Instead, be rude to this flagrant violation of, the legal person for my great sorrow.
zinc Professor Wang Xi, as presenters, said: can you now do not let other people speak
, this is a lawyer, a legal person as you? invited to the front seat. This is too stark contrast!!!
description of our own eyes ears completely heard, including many media, including CCTV cameras recorded the red
the whole process of conflict. Maybe some of our more heated words, but we just want to express our students as the Peking University Law School
, some of the views on this and also want to make more friends learn the truth. unjust Department, also criticized the correction please.
Sender: huaxuesuo (clear sunny day), the letter area: Triangle
Title: Round Table event Jilao back
letter station: North Unnamed Station (2008 23:44:14 on Friday, December 12), converted to
the meeting at 7 pm, when I went late, I have not heard the previous statements.
I go, Professor Zhang Ping is a statement full of people, I had stood in the doorway.
standing in front of two teachers, who ...
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